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Women in e-Discovery, or WiE, is an educational and
networking organization for women who are interested in
the use of technology in the law. Since its informal
beginnings in a Washington, D.C., Starbucks over six
months ago, it has grown to have more than 700 members
with 10 chapters and 16 additional chapters slated for
2008.
ALSP Update
interviewed the three WiE founders: Shawnna Childress,
Margaret Havinga and Lana Schell.
ALSP:
How did Women in e-Discovery get started?
Childress: We would
periodically meet for coffee at Starbucks, and one
Friday we were talking about technology and the law and
women’s issues and we talked about a way to have other
women join us. We came up with the idea to build a Web
site, and send its link to other women and invite them
to get together to learn, grow and network.
So I built the first Web site and we sent out the link
to our personal friends who sent it to their friends and
within literally a few weeks we had requests to start
chapters, and they started popping up in other cities.
We currently have 10 chapters including one in London,
and expect at least that many new chapters in 2008. So
far we’ve had inquiries not just from the U.S. and
London but from Canada, Brazil and Singapore as well.
ALSP:
What kind of functions does WiE provide?
Havinga: The D.C. Chapter holds
monthly meetings over lunch where we invite speakers.
Generally a law firm or a vendor will provide the
meeting place and meal so we are able to offer
membership at no cost to the members. Other locations
have quarterly meetings. We have been very committed to
having the meetings end on time so that our members can
budget their time effectively.
We’ve been fortunate to have the support of a lot of
firms and companies that have provided space and many
nonmembers — including George Socha, Tom Ball and Dan
Regard — have been very generous with their time and
have spoken at our meetings.
ALSP:
How would you compare yourself with other groups in the
e-Discovery or litigation field?
Schell: We open up our membership
to all women, not just managers. We have attorneys,
vendors, government employees, all facets of the
e-Discovery market. The WiE membership comprises general
counsels, secretaries, chief operating officers and
women from all walks of technology.
ALSP:
What advice would you offer to male managers?
Childress:
Don’t look at women like
they can’t contribute on the same level as a man. Women
may wear more hats, but even though they’re often very
busy they give 150 percent at work. I even dream about
work — I sleep with a notebook so I can write down my
ideas. Women make great members of a team. They’re more
apt to listen to all the discussions and not give their
judgment until all due diligence is performed.
Schell:
Men and women approach
things differently, sort of the Mars and Venus idea.
Women are often not as aggressive or as reactive as some
men are; they listen more, think about the issue before
coming to a conclusion. They have a different outlook
and a different approach in how they analyze things. Men
and women balance each other out; each adds a different
dimension.
One big thing is to treat everyone alike. For example,
in one organization the male employees would be taken
out for drinks or dinner to celebrate birthdays, but the
women were never invited. That is a big de-motivator.
Fortunately this type of thing is happening less and
less.
ALSP:
Do you see any differences in work settings?
Havinga:
I work at a law firm that
has women in top positions and is very supportive of
women.
Childress:
Law firms do seem
to be more sensitive to minorities. At some vendors,
women are not appreciated or put in higher positions. We
would like to see that change in our market place.
ALSP:
Any advice to a woman interviewing for a new position?
Look for opportunities to grow and learn — to grow to a
different level. Ask about educational or certification
opportunities.
ALSP:
Where do you see Women in e-Discovery in three or five
years?
Schell:
It’s hard to predict six
months much less three or five years. We just want to
continue growing, to help more women grow in their
careers. We are incorporating as a nonprofit corporation
after the first of the year. As we grow, we expect to
have more educational content through our WiE committee,
Women Learning Technology Together.
ALSP:
How did each of you get into the e-Discovery industry?
Childress:
My family owned a court
reporting agency in Florida, and I had expected to take
it over from my father. However, in the late ‘80s there
were a lot of changes including new technologies and
that didn’t appear to be a good idea. I knew I wanted to
stay in a field that was legal-related so I became a
paralegal at LexisNexis where I grew and held a variety
of positions including legal research specialist and
various sales and marketing roles throughout my 10 years
with them. I volunteered for every technology committee
I could, which kept me involved with the new technology
LexisNexis was creating or bringing inhouse. In 2000, I
learned about a new practice area called e-Discovery
which fascinated me. I moved to Fios Inc. as one of
their first legal consultants for electronic discovery.
After Fios, I moved to WestLaw for a short stint as the
manager of premium accounts, but I missed e-Discovery.
Therefore, I co-founded a computer forensics and
electronic discovery company in Orlando. After selling
our company, I became a consultant with Stratify and am
currently director of national accounts at Encore Legal
Solutions.
Havinga:
During college I came to
work at Williams & Connolly in a part-time capacity.
After graduation I decided to take a year while
contemplating law school and applied to work in the
litigation support department where I worked with
InMagic, Basis and FolioViews databases. That was 15
years ago and at that time everything was paper-based.
We had databases to index or summarize the documents.
Then we introduced document imaging to decrease the
amount of paper we had to handle. In 1995 or ‘96 I
became more specialized on trial presentation and
graphics. In 1999–2000 when I became the head of the
department we had three people; we’ve now built up to 15
people. We like to keep things inhouse but work with a
number of vendors for collection, hosting and
consulting.
Schell:
When I was in law school I
worked for the Office of General Counsel for the
Pennsylvania State Police. I became interested in
technology and built a database to track defendants —
what citations did they have issued to them in which
offices. I moved from Harrisburg to Philadelphia and
worked at Drinker Biddle and at Duane Morris in
litigation support. From there I went on to a position
as project manager and later senior consultant for
Merrill and then went on to LECG as a consultant. I’m
currently a channel manager for Syngence Corp. |